Archives - Politics: Page 39
Author: kalanidream (Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:32 pm)
Title: building a wall between mexico and the United States
The new problem of the hour seems to be illegal immagrants from Mexico coming into the states. Though this is a problem, I highly doubt building a wall between the US and Mexico with snipers guarding it is hardly the answer.
So what is the solution? How do we keep people from crossing into the states illegally with out making them feel like they are prisoners in their own country?
One argument that can be made is that if they are entering the country illegally, it isn't their "own country" to begin with. The proposal for a wall spanning the United States/Mexico border is just one of several that will be considered in the coming months and years. I believe that Senator John Mccain has the best solution to the current immigration problems our country is facing. He has proposed a plan to allow the 12 million illegal immigrants in the US to obtain citizenship through a 5-6 year process that involves learning english, paying $2,000 in fines, and keeping a clean record with the police. Proposals like this are very important because they do not provide amnesty to the illegal immigrants. If we were to simply allow all current illegal immigrants living in the United States immediate citizenship, there would be a severe political and racial backlash. By allowing a step by step process toward citizenship that includes learning english, McCain is establishing a clear path that should eliminate much of the illegal population, and enrage less of the current population.
Others have suggested immediately deporting the illegal immigrant population as soon as possible. This suggestion implies absolutely zero rational thought and reasoning. One look at the statistics tells an important story. Our illegal immigrants comprise a large percentage of our lower workforce. To simply deport them all would be a grave injustice, and would cause major problems with our labor in the future. I think its time for Americans to remember where this country came from in order to determine where it should be heading.
How does the government plan to build such a big wall without the help of Mexicans. I don't think the wall should go up because there are jobs in this country that many peopl don't want to do. Many Immigrants aren't too prideful about doing the dirty work.
Thats right a lot of immagrants whether they be Mexican, Asian, Hatian or other wise, will do the jobs that Americans would never lower themselves to do. The problem is large corperations are capitalizing on this and some think its unfair. Plus the immagrants are using false ID's to gain benifits. Letting immagants get benifits is taking awya form hard working americans gettting benifits. The wall is not the best idea, but its the best idea this administration can come up with....
Well that is a good example of knowing nothing about politics. This administration didn't propose the plan for a wall between Mexico and the United States. Rep. Duncan Hunter has been fighting for tactical solutions to the immigration dilemma for over 15 years, and has finally won over the House of Representatives. The bill must still pass in the Senate before moving to the president for a decision. President Bush has shown strong disapproval for the immigration policies of the United States and has frequently called for more loose legislation.
You say that immigrants are obtaining false ID's to gain benefits in our country, and that these actions undermine the hard-working Americans. But what of the lazy Americans who sit on their asses while collecting welfare or unemployment checks each month? Are they not a drain on the hard-working Americans who receive benefits? So, what's the difference between the lazy, legal Americans receiving benefits, and the hard-working, but illegal immigrants receiving them? Clearly, the best idea proposed in immigration reform thus far, is a plan to allow immigrants to become U.S. citizens legally, in a manner that is reasonable to accomplish. By making them legal citizens, there will be no difference between them and the lazy Americans who receive your precious benefits.
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Making them legal citizens in theory is a great idea, but what standards will they be held to to become an American citizen. If you make it to easy then every mexican will want to do it. If that happens it will kill their economy because mexican citizens will want to come here for better jobs with better pay. this is just my theory and Thrty2mars we talked about this yesterday.
Even if the standards were lowered, the required financial fee for every person that becomes a naturalized citizen in the United States would be a strong deterent for Mexicans, and all of the other illegal immigrants from other countries as well. Also, there is a great misperception of Mexicans and their desire to live in the United States. MOST Mexican citizens would not just take off and leave their own homes and settled lives, just because the US decided it was going to make their standards less stringent. In fact, it is most probable that the illegal immigrants living here would be the ones with the greater incentive to become a citizen. Whether it is done legally or not, if Mexicans want to come to the United States, they will find a way.
But lets say hypothetically speaking, there was a large amount of Mexicans coming to the U.S because of the lowered standards. This would actually bolster the Mexican economy, since they are overpopulated in terms of their employment opportunities.
The guest makes a very excellent point; that better immigration policy will effectively reduce the number of illegal immigrants we have in the United States already. We have seen a dramatic increase in requests for naturalization applications as a result of the current legislation in Congress. Some illegal immigrants don’t feel a strong incentive to become a citizen, but others just need help through the process. Understanding the requirements and study guides for the tests can become a hindrance to the naturalization process. Throughout history, one thing has always been constant: progressive movements will always encounter stiff resistance. This is simply a stiff resistance that will ultimately be overcome. The illegal immigrants in this country (all 12 million of them) will never be deported; even if the government were to pass a law requiring it. They have built families and lives here, and we could never, and should never attempt to deport such a vital part of our country.