Archives - Astronomy: Page 9
Author: rhyco5 (Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:46 pm)
Title: Are we alone
Are we alone? I think when answering this question people often forget or don't know how the universe operates and how it is constructed. Think of it as a huge solar system in rotation with smaller solar systems inside of it also self rotating. The Earth solar system being one of thousands or millions. All planets are constantly being pushed outward from a center. The Universe is pure constant expanding energy. We are billions of light years away from the center and probably billions of light years away from the tail. Now if we were able to find microscopic life on Mars, our own solar system, then how ignorrant would we be to believe that our system is the only system with life.
I agree. Life most likely exists somewhere in the univervse. I also believe it's possible that extraterrestrials have visited our planet. What I have a hard time believing, are the tall tales these "UFologists" have congered up to prove the existence of alien life. I was watching a show on the Aurora case on the History Channel last night and it made me disgusted. The Aurora case is the story that in 1897, a UFO crash-landed in Texas, and an alien body was discovered. The people of the nearby town supposedly buried the alien in a "Christian burial" and then threw the pieces of the UFO into a well. While this may seem like a very promising start to proving alien life, the "investigators" go on to prove nothing at all. They locate the well where the pieces were thrown, but a past owner had sealed it off with 8 feet of cement. Rather than try to open the well and solve the case once and for all, they determine that it's too difficult to open, and they continue their search elsewhere.
Then they claim to have found the cemetary where the alien was buried. They are told to look near a tall oak tree, and find a small tombstone with a spaceship carved in it. They register a reading of metal underneath the ground, and then attempt to get permission to exume the grave. For some reason, the cemetary won't let them dig up the remains, and when they return to the grave, the tombstone is gone and there are no more readings of metal.
The problem with this story is that they have no video documentation. It's just interviews with these guys telling us what happened while we watch re-creations.
I was very interested in learning the truth, and all they could provide were BS excuses and no hard evidence. With all the technology available today they should have been able to find something. Instead, they bring a metal detector that some old man would use to search the beach for coins, and they can't even think of a way to break through a well that might hold the answers they need. It seems to me like a well that has been sealed off would be even better because the metal pieces should still be there perfectly preserved. Man was I angry after watching this.
Ya I feel the same way. Most of the UFologists are full of crap as well as the sitings recorded by people. Think about it. Of all the creatures on our planet and the forms that life forms can come in, what is the possibility that they have 4 limbs, an indo skeleton and look very similar to ourselves. We see these movies and vidoe sitings of the same big head and big eyes that resemble more a japenese anime than an alien.
Yeah, I mean the probability of life outside of our solar system is pretty good considering how big the universe is. Intelligent life does, however, require billions of years of a relatively unique and providing environment. We found signs of life on Mars, but really what does that mean if they were just bacteria? True Mars was able to sustain single celled organisms for a short while, but what makes us think that that's anything special? Did we really for this long actually believe that there would be no life anywhere else in the universe? It's just nonsense. I disagree that any other life has visited our solar system. Even with all of the probability that life does exist in other places, to get to this solar system, in this galaxy, it would require ships that sped so quickly that they would be nearing the speed of light, and we all know what happens when things move at the speed of light, they turn to raw uncontrollable energy. It's just physics. it's been done with hydrogen atoms as a test. The only ways that they could get here are either A) they have an extremely long lifespan allowing them to spend most of their lives in space travel to get here... which seems highly improbably, or B) They have figured out how to bend the fabric of space. Neither of these things seem probable, because hey.. how much more intelligent can life really get? We're stupid, but so is nature. Freaking Jupiter has had the same damn storm for who knows how long.
Nature is not stupid and neither are human beings. We only use 10% of our brain with the acception of Einstein who had a hyper developed frontal lob, which means he was using 20% of his brain power. If we only use 10% and have managed to create such wonderous technology, why can't the other intelligent life in the universe be smarter than us. Wouldn't that make it possible that they have learned to alter the fabric of space. Couldn't they travel faster than the speed of light. What if their physical make up was part or mostly energy?
All very good points, but the question I want to pose is: why do they have to be anything like us? You said it yourself rhyco, that it is unlikely that alien life will resemble us. So why then would we assume that they would have a similar brain? Whether humans use 10, 20 , or even 80 percent of their brains is not really fact, but speculation because we have no real way to test that. An IQ test will only measure how you compare to other humans, but not as a percentage of overall usage. I am torn on the question of whether or not alien life has ever visited our neighborhood in the Milky Way. I do think it's probable because we don't know everything there is to know. If you have heard of talk of 4th, 5th, or even 10th dimensions, then you know that we may only be scratching the surface of space travel. but considering that we know nothing about alien life, it seems equally likely that they live on a space ship and travel through space for their entire lives (like Star Trek) compared to the belief that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, and nothing can bend the fabric of time. You have no real proof of any of those things, and neither do I. That's what makes these topics so exciting... to me anyway.
Interesting point. If you bring in the dimensional aspect of it all the possibilities are endless. We may be walking among aliens right now. We may be the aliens on their planet.